English Version of Mann’s ‘Germany and the Germans’?

First, thanks to everybody for the quick answer to the Polish question. Them Kaczynski boys are at it again! Following the wishes of 75% of the Polish electorate, that is.

That aside, I have another bleg for my brilliant, good-looking readers. I’d like to quote portions of Thomas Mann’s 1945 address Deutschland und die Deutschen (Germany and the Germans), held in English in the Library of Congress. However, I can only find German versions of this speech, not the English version Mann actually held. The English version is available as a pamphlet from the Library of Congress, but I don’t think I’m going to be able to find that in Germany.

Can anyone help me?

10 thoughts on “English Version of Mann’s ‘Germany and the Germans’?

  1. Ever tried your local second hand bookstore… We have one in Goettingen, where I´d bet you´d find one. But as you are in Berlin, with a much bigger university and as such, at least one (1) second hand bookstore more than Goettingen, I´d try to look there… 😉


  2. Uhh, I forgot… As I am a student, I should first try to search the library… It´s like the swiss army knife of a student. I found an english version in Staats- und Universtitätsbibliothek Göttingen. You should try the one in Berlin. Normally it is possible to get it from other libraries, if they haven´t got there own copy. This costs about 2-4 Euro and can take in very hard cases up to 3 weeks, but worth a try…


  3. @ Max:
    Last time I checked, Andrew was Dusseldorf-based. And since he didn’t mention Berlin in any recent post, I guess he still is.


  4. Thanks for the all your help. The problem is, I can’t find the English version anywhere that might be accessible through Fernleihe. So even if the pamphlet exists in Goettingen, I can’t find it through the Fernleihe maske, perhaps because it’s too old and valuable. Therefore, I’d have to go Goettingen to look at it. Ideally, what I’d love to find is a book with Mann’s collected political essays in English, but the only book I can find that’s like this has none of his political essays. How can an English version of a speech given by Mann be so bloody hard to find?!?


  5. According to the GBV (Gemeinsamer Verbundkatalog), the book is accessible through Fernleihe from the Universitätsbibliothek Kiel. I guess it’s definitely possible to get a copy of the whole pamphlet because it has only 20 pages.

    And the Mann adress was also published as an article in the “Yale Review”:

    Mann, Thomas, 1875-1955. “Germany and the Germans” in. Yale Review. A National Quarterly XXXV, No. 2, Dec. 1945. New Haven: Yale University Press, 1946, Winter, 223-241pp.

    The Yale Review version is possibly easier to access.


  6. Andrew,

    are you really Düsseldorf-based? How about this piece of information from the “Thomas-Mann-Sammlung” Universitäts- und Landesbibliothek Düsseldorf?

    Person: Mann, Thomas
    Normierter Titel: Deutschland und die Deutschen [engl.]
    Titel: Germany and the Germans
    Verfasser/Urheber: [Thomas Mann]
    Jahr: 2003
    Umfang: S. 45 – 66
    Allg. Hinweise: Potempa T 602
    Lok.Not.: tmsi221
    In: Mann, Thomas: Addresses delivered at the Library of Congres. 2. ed.. 2003

    07: Zentralbibl./Sonderlesesaal 01
    Nicht ausleihbar

    The mentioned book is: Tolzmann, Don Heinrich (ed.) (2003), Thomas Mann’s Addresses Delivered at the Library of Congress. New German-American Studies / Neue Deutsch-Amerikanische Studien Vol. 25, Oxford, Bern, Berlin, Peter Lang Publishing, ISBN 978-3-03910-014-9 / US-ISBN 978-0-8204-6283-7


  7. Steffi, thanks for the help; that’s exactly what I needed.

    It’s kind of embarrassing, since I tend to think of myself as a pretty damned good researcher. But I typed in all conceivable variations of Mann and Germany and Essay and English into all the German library search engines I could find, and didn’t come up with anything.

    Next time you’re in Duesseldorf, I’ll buy you a beer.


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