The World Wants Obama

As I found out this weekend, Europeans are obsessed with Barack Obama, mostly because they desperately want him to win in 2008.  They are also almost completely ignorant of John McCain, and generally don’t understand his strengths as a candidate.  But it’s not just Europeans, ‘The World Wants Obama’ too (h/t ZaA):

The global community is more interdependent than ever before and the next resident of the White House will make decisions that that affect us all. Whether you live in Brighton, Baghdad, Buenos Aires or Bangkok, this matters.

We cannot vote in the 2008 US elections, but if we could we’d back Obama. Why? We want an America that:

– lives up to the principles it preaches;

– listens rather than lectures;

– conserves rather than consumes;

– makes peace rather than war;

– inspires hope everywhere.

Not a bad idea, creating grass-roots support for candidates in other countries. I plan to register www.nongermansforholgerapfel.eu soon, unless someone beats me to it…

15 thoughts on “The World Wants Obama

  1. Germans being ignorant of John McCain might have something to do with us being used to vote for parties instead of candidates. Having another chancellor of the same party doesn’t change very much here. I guess that’s why getting rid of Bush isn’t enough for us, we want to get rid of the whole party, not matter if the candidate is McCain, MacLeod or Macbeth.

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  2. “we want to get rid of the whole party” (the GOP).

    Yes. This predates Bush, predates 9/11, predates everything. Goes back to Reagan. Most Europeans don’t understand or like the Republicans and don’t agree that they are the legitimate leaders of the US even when elected. After the 2000 election the attitude of most of Europe was clearly something like “Forget you’re silly rules’ we want Gore!”.

    Yes, you will probably get President Obama next year. Hell, I’ll probably vote for him myself. But not because I give a curse for most European opinion any more. I do care about Asia, Africa, & Latin America, and believe Obama will continue and extend the Bush policy of more US public diplomacy in the world outside Europe. If he tosses in a little more for Europe I’m willing to overlook that…..

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  3. @Don:

    After the 2000 election the attitude of most of Europe was clearly something like “Forget you’re silly rules’ we want Gore!”.

    And what a wise choice Gore would have been. After 8 years of George W. Bush’s rule, America stands before a pile of shards (to use an expressive German phrase). But it’s mostly the US that has to bear the consequences, not Europe.

    Hell, I’ll probably vote for him myself. But not because I give a curse for most European opinion any more.

    Europe has, as we know, survived two world wars. It will survive this slight as well 😉

    However, not all Germans like Obama. For example, Gabor Steingart, who in spite of all circumstances is allowed to pose as Spiegel’s America expert, is not a fan.

    Stupid question on the side: What the fuck is up with that Barack Obama = Holger Apfel metaphor?!

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  4. “And what a wise choice Gore would have been.”

    Afraid I cannot agree. Had Gore been allowed to ‘win’ his way into office via lawsuit the result would have been a dead President and President Lieberman within a couple years, I think. AND we would have had 9/11 and most of what followed – just under President Gore. The drivers were just too strong. He might have avoided Iraq, but we can’t know that. Afghanistan? No way.

    But it would have have been more comfortable for Europeans, and that is the sole legitimate aim of US policy, no?

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  5. “Barack Obama = Holger Apfel metaphor?!”

    If I knew who the hell Holger Apfel was I might have a chance of answering that queustion. As it is I do not, and cannot.

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  6. > Why? We want an America that:
    > – lives up to the principles it preaches;
    > – listens rather than lectures;
    > – conserves rather than consumes;
    > – makes peace rather than war;
    > – inspires hope everywhere.

    > Not a bad idea, creating grass-roots support for candidates in other countries. I plan to register
    > http://www.nongermansforholgerapfel.eu soon, unless someone beats me to it…

    >> “Barack Obama = Holger Apfel metaphor?!”
    >> If I knew who the hell Holger Apfel was I might have a chance of answering that queustion.
    >> As it is I do not, and cannot.

    Don, I advise some Vorsprung durch Technik. Anyway, the point escapes me, too. Then again, Mr Apfel quite lives up to the principles he preaches; besides, as Nazis do, he really digs anti-consumerism and conserving the environment, and arguably Apfelboy inspires hope, if not everywhere, at least among the followers of his fashion. That makes almost three out of five – not bad. See, where the mongering of empty phrases may lead to? Beware.

    > Stupid question on the side: What the fuck is up with that Barack Obama = Holger Apfel metaphor?!

    Basti, I’m afraid Mr Hammel’s home will be raided by a grammar trope Nazi squad early in a not to distant morning. Quite likely, he himself doesn’t know anymore what he meant to fool about. Speaking of which: I still don’t get it why we should be born with a religion, as Mr Hammel once posited in apt prose, severely lacking reasoning, though. Born with a clubfoot, a harelip, or it’s brain? Yep. With a religion? Nope. What a hideous deformation, particularly when it’s most authoritative bodies will have you bumped off once you want to leave. Shall we believe Muslims to be born with built-in automated self destruction? Would that be Vorsprung durch Technik? No, in all likelihood it was just an attack of very best intentions, going berserk, as pc ways are wont to do.

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  7. Barack Obama = Holger Apfel.

    Hmmmm, Herr Apfel seesm to be the rough German equivalent of David Duke or perhaps some of our US nativists, on the reasoning that ‘Germany for the Germans’ = ‘America for the Americans’.

    There is no direct logical connection between Mr. Obama and Herr, Apfel, but nevertheless I believe I understand the premises which underlie this line of ‘reasoning’. It’s too kind to use ‘reasoning’ but let’s keep the party polite, shall we?

    Basically it goes as follows: In both the US and Germany (other places too) a certain proportion of the population utterly believes that the USA is the new Reich (which Reich is indeterminate – I once tried to work this out and came up with a very large number). Let’s call the US today the 1000th Reich and leave it at that. Think Noam Chomsky and his circle in the US – perhaps Gunter Grass et al in Germany?

    Among such circles it is a well-established fact that all US Presidents for a very long time have actually been Reichchancellors, some more than others. But Reagan and Bush more than any other.

    Now a split appears. Obama has managed to acquire the support of most of the left-left and even a portion of the right (although centre-right like myself rather than the Birchers and far right-righters). This is not understood in certain parts of Europe. What is not understood must be ominous and evil, that is axiomatic. Well – not exactly so. If it happens in the US it is axiomatic; if it involves Muslim ‘activists’ it means we are not tolerant enough and must needs adopt Sharia for our very own (ask Archbishop Rowan Williams about that one).

    And besides, the Austrian Shicklegruber & Mussolini managed the same trick, so QED Obama must be the same. Add in the fact that Obama has been compared to Reagan…..

    To most people this is completely bugfuttering batso nuts, of course, but we’re not taking about most people here; no, this is the cognitive elite. QED……

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  8. Of course they do, he would finish devaluing the dollar making the Euro the best currency in the world once and for all. He would move our troops from Iraq to home and then off to be Africa’s policeman. He would try to ban our right to bear arms and persecute us for our religion. Of course Europeans want Obama to be President of the USA. A weakened USA just makes them that more dominant.

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  9. I cant believe that Europe wants to let Saudia Arabia and the Iran’s to rule the world with oil. I do believe that the EU is looking towards a gas free economy, but when the time comes, the USA will get there first, by the same nature that all of our ancestors (European and such) built a stronger sense of union from state, by the people’s government . Each of the USA “states” equals a GNP of most of the world’s countries. Texas for example has a larger economy than France, just a state in the USA, North Carolina, more GNP than Russia, just a state in the USA, there are 48 more to compare, even a rather small state like Arizon has a GNP greater than Spain, why go on?

    Einstien said that the USA is the only country with a chance of saving the world. Not because the people are so smart or able but because it is a place where people have come together from all over the world with opportunity that is equal. A represenative sample of the world beyond the arcaic environments.

    So if people disagree with this and they live in a place better equipped to help the world please,,,stand up. The USA did not come to police because they wanted to, they came as a matter of natural selection.

    From a redneck, I challenge the rest of the world’s citizens and governmets to provide the exact same amount (per captita) of world relief, contribution to the United Nations, humanitarian aid, military justice in terms of making peace for all people, and provisions for equal human rights as does the USA, bet ya wont…

    So either stand up or shut up, people of the USA have single handedly taken on democratic world affairs in humanistic terms while many who benefit from democracies due to the USA sit on their hands, fools.

    Realize most people in the USA live a very middle class life. Some 65,000.000 near poverty, yet their tax dollors get sent away to keep others safe.

    If USA governmental aid to the rest of the word stopped, every American would be rich, we arn’t because the rest of the world matters, a bye product of what Einstien said.

    Go people

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  10. ok… what about voting for Mr. Obama because he´s quite good-looking and has a charming smile? Besides those “dumbo ears”…

    😛

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  11. I cant believe that Europe wants to let Saudia Arabia and the Iran’s to rule the world with oil.

    It’s because the Europe’s hate your freedom. The truth is that we are very dismayed Bush can’t run for a third term (which he would surely be elected for) – nobody has done more for our currency, our unity, and our standing in the world than he. Our clamouring for Barack Obama is only veneer. Since Mitt Romney dropped out of the race, our hope that the good times will last forever have been destroyed.

    Texas for example has a larger economy than France, just a state in the USA, North Carolina, more GNP than Russia, just a state in the USA, there are 48 more to compare, even a rather small state like Arizon has a GNP greater than Spain, why go on?

    Yes, why indeed?

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